Maybe someone needs to design a Gill Sans Neue. I would not classify Gill as one, but there are SO many others that fit the descrption of bad. Or there are no guilty people in jail only bad lawyers. Seriously, that is like saying there are no bad - I dunno - tomatoes only bad cooks. Sorry Sebastian, nothing personal, but that is nothing but crock o' shit. > "there's no such thing as a bad typeface, only badly used ones" For use in body text it is too wide and for use as display or headlines, as Tan said, there are far many other typefaces that work better. I don't like Gill Sans because it doesn't have enough "presence", even in its bold version it seems wimpy. (Although the new Optima by Linotype makes me quite giddy). I have never ever been able to make myself use Optima for example. And one that I can relate because I don't care for humanist sans. > Is it just Gill Sans, or do you dislike humanist sans serifs in general? But I'm over it, and I can be happy for her to have found so many others who can love her for who she is, not for who she will never be. Life's too short, there are other faces in the case, y'know?Īnyway, we ran into each other last week and, I have to admit, she still looks good. And then I began to actually loathe little details, like the lowecase a, and how she was just so damn inconsistent.ugh. Not to mention the fact that once I'd fallen for her I began to notice that she had been with so many before me that her sincerity came in to question. She was really quite cute (that italic lowercase p always made me smile), knew how to have fun (ooh, a little lowercase letterspacing, huh? naughty girl!) but could also clean up nicely for more serious occasions (in all caps she could be formal without being stuffy).īut after a while, like so many relationships, those same traits that made me love her originally seemed to limit and define her later. When Gill Sans and I first started dating I was really smitten with her. Maybe it's the pork chop of typefaces: abhorrent to those of us used to the solid little mass of white meat our mothers served transcendent in the hands of a chef.Īs for Dodgeball, was there ever a childhood game more targeted to prey on the weak and bookish? On Jul.28.2004 at 11:33 AM I dunno, maybe it just takes a real pro to use it properly. It's as though that's its rightful place and should never be transported from there. Like you, I almost like it.Īnd the London Underground-yes. SAAB has handled it beautifully, I must say. I have not once been able to bring myself to use it in my independent career. I can't say how many times I've thought "Hmmm, maybe a little Gill Sans would be appropriate here," only to invoke the vision and the spirit of one of his nastily designed books and throwing me back in time 15 years to when I was a typesetter for same. I despise Gill Sans, but it's a personal association-it was the favourite typeface of my evil ex-boss (from years and years ago). I have never noticed those absurd irregularities (except of course that the Extra and Ultra Bold weights are steroid-addled to the point of incompatibility). And really, I have to hand it to you for so rationally denigrating the typeface. What do you think of when you see Gill Sans? Saab or DodgeBall? I have also always wondered what the Extra Bold and Ultra Bold weights could be used for and recently discovered the answer. This alone should be enough for you to never use it again, but the list of problems goes on and on. I know, you are sitting at your computer trying it yourself, thinking that your version is correct. So why don’t I like Gill Sans? To start, try typing in a lower case “b” and “d” in Light, Regular and Bold ( I’ll do it for you.) The inconsistencies aren’t even consistent. They use just one weight and actually make it seem very premium, however Gill Sans is paired with the Saab reputation and great beauty-shots. To be fair, Saab does a fine job with it as their sole typeface. I see designers using it all the time and I smile and say, “Oh yeah, Gill Sans.” The smile though is a fake smile, like when I have to pose for a picture for more than 2 seconds.
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